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a-kyle · Nov 30, 2009, 06:14 AM // 06:14

Ice Caves or Sorrow (Zaishen Quest)

I have freed and spoke to every one, cleared ever creature and explored every inch but apparently I am missing these rebels I have to clear....

where are they?

Hells Fury · Nov 30, 2009, 06:25 AM // 06:25

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ice_C...ow#Walkthrough

Tearmaker · Nov 30, 2009, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by a-kyle

Ice Caves or Sorrow (Zaishen Quest)

I have freed and spoke to every one, cleared ever creature and explored every inch but apparently I am missing these rebels I have to clear....

where are they?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ice_caves_of_sorrow

a-kyle · Nov 30, 2009, 06:27 AM // 06:27

again with the "I have freed ever one and spoke to ever y one, killed everything and explored ever where bu apparently I am missing something, I have read that "walkthrough" 3 times now and I am still coming up blank

Kook~NBK~ · Nov 30, 2009, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Saidra and Evinia are the "rebels."

jurrit · Nov 30, 2009, 07:43 AM // 07:43

If you look at the map you see Powder Kegs (B) and doors (C). You have to open the doors by putting a Powder Keg in front of it.

Did you use Powder Kegs on all the doors?

Can you also tells us how far you got on the map, so that we have an idea where you got stuck?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...Sorrow_map.jpg <-- map

Divine Ashes · Nov 30, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07

why did you feel the need to make two topics?

Zebideedee · Nov 30, 2009, 01:09 PM // 13:09

Hold in left alt key, that'll help you find allies etc. even if a wall is in the way. Ctrl works for enemies.

The dark grey bit to the right of where you start on map (press M) is where they guys are.

BrettM · Nov 30, 2009, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Zebideedee

Hold in left alt key, that'll help you find allies etc. even if a wall is in the way. Ctrl works for enemies.

The OP has completed the mission and bonus, so he isn't having a problem seeing NPCs, using powder kegs, or anything else in the walkthrough. The problem is one of identification. The main goal of the mission is to free rebels, as stated in the Z-mission goals, or to free Evennia, as stated in the regular mission goals. He can't figure out where the rebels are, even though he must have freed them at some point or he would have failed the mission.

It is very difficult to follow the logic leading to the conclusion that the two imprisioned women that were freed and the rebels who must be freed from imprisonment are one and the same. The wiki page does not supply enough additional information to resolve the dilemma, since it only identifies Evennia and Saidra as Shining Blade members a couple of times on the page. There is only one link to the Shining Blade wiki page, which identifies them as a rebel organization, and one link to Evennia's page, which identifies her as a leader of the opposition to the ruling White Mantle (i.e., a rebel). With this extraordinary lack of information, confusion is bound to result, making it impossible to realize that the two women could be described as rebels.

tl;dr: Goal is to free rebels. Two women were freed. Goal was completed. Thus, women = rebels.

Silmar Alech · Nov 30, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Don't read the Zaishen quest requirements in detail. Its always the same for all missions.

goal 1: complete the mission to get bounty and z-coins
goal 2: complete the bonus (masters bonus in factions or nightfall) -> get more z-coins
goal 3: complete the mission in hard mode -> get even more z-coins

It's always the same. There is no difference in performing a mission with or without an active zaishen-bounty. Just do the mission.

Nov 30, 2009, 06:14 AM // 06:14	#1
a-kyle Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: A/R	where are these rebels? Ice Caves or Sorrow (Zaishen Quest) I have freed and spoke to every one, cleared ever creature and explored every inch but apparently I am missing these rebels I have to clear.... where are they?

Nov 30, 2009, 07:43 AM // 07:43	#6
jurrit Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Amsterdam Guild: Bubblegum Dragons [GUM]	If you look at the map you see Powder Kegs (B) and doors (C). You have to open the doors by putting a Powder Keg in front of it. Did you use Powder Kegs on all the doors? Can you also tells us how far you got on the map, so that we have an idea where you got stuck? http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:...Sorrow_map.jpg <-- map Last edited by jurrit; Nov 30, 2009 at 07:46 AM // 07:46..

Nov 30, 2009, 01:09 PM // 13:09	#8
Zebideedee Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W Profession: N/Me	Hold in left alt key, that'll help you find allies etc. even if a wall is in the way. Ctrl works for enemies. The dark grey bit to the right of where you start on map (press M) is where they guys are. Last edited by Zebideedee; Nov 30, 2009 at 01:17 PM // 13:17..

Nov 30, 2009, 06:25 AM // 06:25	#2
Hells Fury Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2009 Profession: W/D	http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ice_C...ow#Walkthrough

Nov 30, 2009, 06:27 AM // 06:27	#4
a-kyle Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: A/R	again with the "I have freed ever one and spoke to ever y one, killed everything and explored ever where bu apparently I am missing something, I have read that "walkthrough" 3 times now and I am still coming up blank

Nov 30, 2009, 07:11 AM // 07:11	#5
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	Saidra and Evinia are the "rebels."

Nov 30, 2009, 09:07 AM // 09:07	#7
Divine Ashes Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chicago Guild: LFG Profession: R/	why did you feel the need to make two topics?

Nov 30, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25	#10
Silmar Alech Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Europe Guild: Tom Son [TS] Profession: E/	Don't read the Zaishen quest requirements in detail. Its always the same for all missions. goal 1: complete the mission to get bounty and z-coins goal 2: complete the bonus (masters bonus in factions or nightfall) -> get more z-coins goal 3: complete the mission in hard mode -> get even more z-coins It's always the same. There is no difference in performing a mission with or without an active zaishen-bounty. Just do the mission.